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[cathybites]

For the record, this is how you apologize.

For the record, this is not the proper response to such a post. Neither is this, nor this. (There are more examples, but those are the ones that completely enraged me.)

And if you decide to post objectionable pictures and someone rightfully asks that your comment be screened, this sure as HELL is not the proper response.

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[loveflyfree.livejournal.com]

I saw Lizard's apology this morning and was like "AWESOME" because yes. hi I fucked up, I'm sorry. it's really not that difficult.

and as for the pictures that were embedded... I had to step away from my computer after that because she makes me so angry I was literally shaking.

(I mean come on Cathy. IT'S FOR SCIENCE.)

[quiet000001.livejournal.com]

I like the "but it's in the title, so I don't have to warn!" argument, myself.

I mean, I spend way more time than I probably should on horse forums that talk about all kinds of lovely things, including all of the revolting injuries horses manage to do to themselves and the treatment of same and you know what? Even if the entire freaking thread has been about treating an injury for 15 pages, PEOPLE STILL WARN IF THEY'RE GOING TO LINK TO GRAPHIC IMAGES OF SAID INJURY. Because there is a huge difference between talking about something in text and actually being faced with the image unprepared.

*headdesk*

[quiet000001.livejournal.com]

(Can't edit posts, so a brief eta: I am not, of course, meaning to equate photos of gross horse injuries with the actual photos posted. Just saying "look, if this social group of people on the internet can figure out there's a difference between discussing things in text and seeing graphic images of it, even though most people in the group have seen all kinds of revolting things in person, maybe it's not rocket science that there is, you know, A DIFFERENCE, and it should be up to an individual to decide if they want to be exposed to the image or not.")

[loveflyfree.livejournal.com]

oh absolutely. all she had to do was link to the pictures rather than embed them and problem completely avoided. or you know, apologize after the fact.

...I really don't see that happening.

[cathybites.livejournal.com]

no, no, I got exactly what you meant with your example and, yes. YES. I mean, you'd think it'd be common sense to link and not embed the pictures, but no.

or, I guess, it IS common sense, and some people are severely lacking in that.

[quiet000001.livejournal.com]

As best I can gather, the use of images instead of links was actually intended to shock people as some sort of retaliation for the dramatic language being used in posts/blogs about the study.

So it's not lacking common sense, but rather a specific choice to be offensive? (Offensive might not be the best word, but something along those lines.)

(Which is, imo, considerably worse than just not thinking about linking to the images in the first place, since recognizing the shock value by definition means recognizing that some people are going to find them upsetting or disturbing to view unexpectedly. Also, questionable as to the active effectiveness of that in terms of getting people to listen to your side of things.)

[cathybites.livejournal.com]

I was kind of gushing over her to people because, really. She's one of the sweetest people I've ever met, and that post just reinforced that.

UGH UGH UGH. I know you've heard me go on about her before, but, hey. Now I have a for-real legit reason to want nothing to do with her.

[loveflyfree.livejournal.com]

hahahah RIGHT. like before it was just kind of fandom bullshit and a general sense of dislike. now I can just be like 'NO.'

[oaktree89.livejournal.com]

Yes, yea, and yes. Lizard really is exemplary.
The others? Not so much -__-

[cathybites.livejournal.com]

She's always been one of the nicest people in fandom, and I think that post shows exactly why, because she's so openminded and willing to learn.

The others? Not so much

Exactly.

[wook77.livejournal.com]

The fail is so motherfucking strong with them. I am so enraged and pissed off omg.

[cathybites.livejournal.com]

I've never had to use the LJ notes feature before but, WOW, am I getting use out of it these past couple of weeks.

[glockgal.livejournal.com]

I particularly love when the commenter is mean and crass, is linked to Derailment for Dummies and is then 'OMG THAT SITE IS SO MEAN AND CRASS MY PRECIOUS FEE-FEES HAVE BEEN HURT. (FYI MY FEELINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOURS) :( :( :('

Oh and of course 'wah wah I don't understand the concept of intersectionality so I'm just gonna feel victimized about privilege (as I assume it only affects me in this one way), I HATE PC POLICE, THIS MAKES ME EDGY.'

[cathybites.livejournal.com]

It's *almost* as good as the people who are all 'BUT THINK OF THE AUTHOR'S FEELINGS' re: writing failboat fics. Because, yes, their feelings ARE more important, dincha know?

I HATE PC POLICE, THIS MAKES ME EDGY.

'LOOK AT ME, I'M LIKE A REAL LIVE DEATH EATER, OOOOH.'

>:\

[geewhiz.livejournal.com]

UGH JFC CATHY the - I don't care if people feel devalued (complete with italics), just holy fucking hell. And all the BS from various places saying basically that well I'd listen to you if you were polite about it, well MAYBE IF YOU WERE POLITE AND DIDN'T TREAT OTHER PEOPLE'S CONCERNS/FEELINGS/CULTURE/EVERYTHING LIKE SHIT, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE RIGHT NOW!

Why is it that the only people supposedly deserving of 1) respectful conversation & discussion 2) the right to express anger are the people shitting all over everyone else?